This is something that I had oversighted on my first reading of Green-2010:
Assuming an average DNA divergence of 6.5 million years between the human and chimpanzee genomes, this results in a point estimate for the average divergence of Neandertal and modern human autosomal DNA sequences of 825,000 years. We caution that this is only a rough estimate because of the uncertainty about the time of divergence of humans and chimpanzees.I must say that it is a pretty decent age that correlates well enough with the archaeological record. Acheulean technology, which surely reflects this divergent episode, spread from Africa to Eurasia c. 900,000 years ago or maybe even earlier (1.4 million years in Palestine).
I have mentioned in the past that the actual time of Pan-Homo divergence must be in fact somewhat older, at least 8 million years (ref. Caswell 2008), the difference with the date used by Green is enough to push the Neanderthal-Sapiens divergence to almost 1 million years, right in time to fit with the Acheulean expansion.
I have been advocating for this scenario for some time now and finally it seems that I was right in this. However I still see a lot of people happily talking of a mere 300 Ka, what is simply ridiculous.
This has of course implication for the mtDNA of the Denisova finger, which is doubly old and hence from c. 2 million years ago, from the very spread of H. erectus.
This is important because, against some speculations in the opposite direction, these ages match almost perfectly with the archaeological record: the puzzle fits well and that makes me happy.
The other age estimate is not Green's one
Contradictorily, in a later section they report, using a different method, a divergence age between 270 and 440,000 years. I can only shake my head before this apparent inconsistency. It's worth to read the confusing method they used to reach to this age at the Supporting Online Material (section 14, page 122) because the method produces very strange (and rather very short) age estimates for humans, such as 5000-60,000 for the divergence between Han and Yoruba. I think it's a rather suspicious method that is not better in anything to the point estimate above.
The fact that this procedure was made by co-author Heng Li (from MIT-Harvard, not the main Max Planck Institut team) and that the whole section seems strangely contradictory with the first one (whose SOM article is authored by Green himself - section 10, page 56) makes me think in possible disputes between the authors on which method and result is best, somehow resulting in this patchy double conclusion.
I understand that the estimate of 850 Ka is authored by Green and hence essentially the position of the European team and that the low estimate was introduced in the last minute to satisfy the Americans (after all Science is a US publication and its executive publisher has connections with the MIT).
I wonder which is the ideological or camarilla interest in promoting and even force-feed, as in this case, these low age estimates against all common sense, it is beginning to stink.
The fact that this procedure was made by co-author Heng Li (from MIT-Harvard, not the main Max Planck Institut team) and that the whole section seems strangely contradictory with the first one (whose SOM article is authored by Green himself - section 10, page 56) makes me think in possible disputes between the authors on which method and result is best, somehow resulting in this patchy double conclusion.
I understand that the estimate of 850 Ka is authored by Green and hence essentially the position of the European team and that the low estimate was introduced in the last minute to satisfy the Americans (after all Science is a US publication and its executive publisher has connections with the MIT).
I wonder which is the ideological or camarilla interest in promoting and even force-feed, as in this case, these low age estimates against all common sense, it is beginning to stink.
