tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post4956759604411400102..comments2023-05-15T07:11:30.874+02:00Comments on Leherensuge: Yet another international linguist takes a stand in favor of Gil in the Iruña-Veleia affaireMajuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-15588383783317605072010-09-21T11:03:46.316+02:002010-09-21T11:03:46.316+02:00Waw Maju. You are quite pessimistic.
Maybe I am to...Waw Maju. You are quite pessimistic.<br />Maybe I am too, but I don't want to see it. With the years I learned that reality is above all unpredictable and often surprising.<br />I like the phrase of William the Silent, chief of the Protestant rebellion during the Spanish occupation of the Netherlands, translated it sounds something like: <i>It is not necessary to be hopeful in order to try, nor to be successful in order to persevere</i>.<br /><br />Thank you for rehearsing English grammar, it's very welcome...Koenraad Van den Driesschehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13130560019686892254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-52523556499306767002010-09-20T20:10:44.525+02:002010-09-20T20:10:44.525+02:00"As I wrote in other blogs, the locale author..."As I wrote in other blogs, the locale authorities of Alava (Diputación Foral de Alava)didn't have until now (a few month later)transferred the requested artefacts to the Guardia Civil"<br /><br />You mean "have not", right? "Did not have" is not a correct construction and the addition of "until now" makes it sound like they did not give the stuff but have finally done. This is not what you mean, right?<br /><br />"In fact, we become very worried about the state of the ostraca at the moment".<br /><br />Yes. It does sound very worrisome. <br /><br />"I honestly hope that they arrive soon to the laboratories"...<br /><br />I agree. The faster the less chance of corruption or manipulation. And we'll know that the important materials are fine. <br /><br />"otherwise we will have to organise protest actions, and with the local elections of May 2011 that would be quite a blow for EA and PNV, that consider themselves as the safeguards for Basque heritage".<br /><br />In this country there are not democratic elections nor institutions anymore. We live under state of exception all the time. <br /><br />While I would not like the Spanish Single Party (PPSOE) to gain ground this is not something we can control in the current circumstances of no right to vote or protest and should be unrelated to the issue of the ostrakas. Anyhow if PNV-EA are the "safeguards for Basque heritage" we are done, as it has been demonstrated in this case. <br /><br />In fact, IMO we'd be a lot better without PNV altogether because they are just a Catholic mafia (neo-Carlists of the worst kind) of total police control. However the legally available alternatives are not desirable either. I guess you can vote to Aralar since they have been the only ones to speak out in this affair (better late than never). Personally I know where my vote will go if the Spanish Inquisition allows, what I consider most unlikely. I respect Aldekoa but don't have too much of a good opinion of Aralar as a whole (they look like a Euskadiko Ezkerra bis, if you know what I'm talking about). <br /><br />The PPSOE (no typo) winning in Araba probably would not help. They are not clean either and I'm sure that they also have affiliates in the UPV camarilla that started all this shame. <br /><br />"Will we see after an archeology professor a diputada abertzaile de cultura who violates Basque herritage?"<br /><br />Yes, it's no problem for them. They are in politics mostly just for power-mongering and making money. Actually you'd have more chances of success if you managed to raise this issue within the file and rank of EA, because there are some honest people in the grassroots of EA (more than in PNV) and they probably do not like this (or would not like if they become aware). <br /><br />Awareness, social awareness is the true problem here. The issue has been largely restricted to the academic and institutional realm, where camarillas rule since long ago. The affair should be passed through to the cultural networks, some of which still exist, I believe, and in general to the public. <br /><br />The weak leg of SOS I-V is, as far as I can see it, the lack of a social, popular, support. It's been so far a too elitist issue for the public to become aware properly and raise their discontent to the authorities (either by public or private protests). If this scandal would be a true scandal (i.e. with social awareness and discontent), then they would have been forced to yield some time ago. But in the elite circles, at least in this little country (and the state of exception does not help at all), it's the power-mongers and manipulators who generally win (and they are as much of PNV-EA as they are of PPSOE or Falange if need be: power is all what matters to them).Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-14275620554836513342010-09-20T19:39:54.903+02:002010-09-20T19:39:54.903+02:00I am not genuinely anything except Basque (by chan...I am not genuinely anything except Basque (by chance) and Communist (in the Anarchist sense of the word, by choice). Don't get me wrong. It's too easy to put labels and create fake ghettos. Beware. <br /><br />And it's spelled "abertzale", without the -i-, which would make the word sound as "-alle/-alje/-aglie/-alhe". But I guess you know that. <br /><br />I would prefer this to be done the civilian way, with two (always better than one) independent (in this case that seems to mean foreign) laboratories doing the job. Specially because I don't trust the police (either corps, please don't tell me the ertzaintza is any better because it's false). <br /><br />But in this case the issue is at the tribunals and you have to play by their rules because you'll get nothing doing otherwise. <br /><br />"On the other side it appears that the Guardia Civil has quite a reputation in archaeological falsification and has very well equipped chemical laboratories".<br /><br />And big pockets for the bribes. Beware. The best that can be hoped is a quick analytic because the more time it passes the easier they can use the power networks and money to alter science. They are probably knocking doors as we speak. <br /><br />In this country there are two mafias: Spanish police and PNV (EA by extension). And let's not forget the Catholic church, specially Jesuits and Opus.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-1626638538165173742010-09-20T16:19:30.664+02:002010-09-20T16:19:30.664+02:00Hi Maju,
Coming back to the news that Guardia Civ...Hi Maju,<br /><br />Coming back to the news that Guardia Civil will investigate the presumed false ostraca. That may sound strange and I can imagine that genuine <i>abertzaile</i> will feel strong reluctance and distrust to this institution. On the other side it appears that the Guardia Civil has quite a reputation in archaeological falsification and has very well equipped chemical laboratories. <br /> <br />As I wrote in other blogs, the locale authorities of Alava (Diputación Foral de Alava)didn't have until now (a few month later)transferred the requested artefacts to the Guardia Civil. They also didn't respond earlier to a petition of the judge to make over a list with artefacts that they want to see investigated.<br /><br />The Diputada declared in more than one occasion that scientific investigation on the inscriptions makes no sense (following the position of Alicia Canto, a professor in epigraphy).<br /><br />In fact, we become very worried about the state of the ostraca at the moment. A lot of people had access to them (except the legal defence of Eliseo Gil) and possible collateral damage in case that their their authenticity would be demonstrated is considerable.<br /><br />I honestly hope that they arrive soon to the laboratories otherwise we will have to organise protest actions, and with the local elections of May 2011 that would be quite a blow for EA and PNV, that consider themselves as the safeguards for Basque heritage.<br /><br />Will we see after an archeology professor a <i>diputada abertzaile de cultura</i> who violates Basque herritage?<br /><br />KoenKoenraad Van den Driesschehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13130560019686892254noreply@blogger.com