tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post3737483757280081774..comments2023-05-15T07:11:30.874+02:00Comments on Leherensuge: Anthropocene or Mechanocene?Majuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-19947006068454134152008-03-13T07:41:00.000+01:002008-03-13T07:41:00.000+01:00I don't think a population of several billion huma...I don't think a population of several billion humans is sustainable however you look at it. Obviously we need to stop population growth by any means necessary. <BR/><BR/>In the wild populations are controlled by predators, epydemics and mere famine and thirst. There are many gnus but never one more than sustainability allows for. <BR/><BR/>But we humans have managed, thanks to technology, to supress those natural controls without estabilishing our own (except in some parts of the World). We cannot have it all: eventually we will be hit very hard and most humans will die. A permanently growing Humankind is simply not viable - and machines make it even less viable. <BR/><BR/>But the interesting thing of machines is that they will eventually become intelligent and self-conscious and they don't have our biological needs. <BR/><BR/>Machines can be fit for the post-biological desert that humankind will leave behind. They may even be more ecological, once they start applying true logic and not mere market "logic". <BR/><BR/>Machines will also be more fit for space colonization, as they can be designed for different enviroments. They might even be partly technological and partly biological, depending on their needs - who knows?Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-27452962964468374252008-03-13T05:58:00.000+01:002008-03-13T05:58:00.000+01:00Wow u r passionate about this topic arn't u...but ...Wow u r passionate about this topic arn't u...but the two of us are communicating thru machines arn't we ?<BR/><BR/>Now maybe u'd say u r not as responsible for machines taking as the guy who uses a bigger and more expensive computer than u.<BR/><BR/>They are eating our food but also help us produce food.True if I had a choice I wd like to live my life in a period 4-5 thousand years ago when machines were not such a big part of human life.Well we make them and they are now an inseparable part of human life.I don't think a population of few billion human beings wd be sustainable on this planet without machines.<BR/><BR/>I had journey to the centre of the earth in my school curricullum and have read a few other books by Jules Verne.<BR/><BR/>I think humans wd kill each other rather than machines killing us :)Jhangorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00623450037458968378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-9788964516217790252008-03-12T07:37:00.000+01:002008-03-12T07:37:00.000+01:00Do you think that we are getting more from machine...Do you think that we are getting more from machines than giving them? People work like crazy just to pay the expenses of a car or any other fashionable gadget, the hunger of machines is causing global warming and, more recently, rising the price of food. <BR/><BR/>They are eating our food! They are destroying our enviroment! And we work for them to keep doing it. I think that's quite worrying in itself. The day (it will come, sooner than later) when they become conscious, we will be done. <BR/><BR/>If something I have learnt from science fiction is that what they describe is not normally just techno fairy tales: many SF ideas have become true (just read Jules Verne's 19th century SF books), maybe not exactly as devised originally but approximately enough. <BR/><BR/>A Terminator scenary can be very real in fact. Just wait and you'll see.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3563811638411839784.post-12546610640808889422008-03-12T06:20:00.000+01:002008-03-12T06:20:00.000+01:00Machines causing human extinction?My gut feeling s...Machines causing human extinction?My gut feeling says that day would not come though I read many such science fiction stories as a child and used to be afraid for the future of mankind.I do feel big cities make machines out of human beings... :)Jhangorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00623450037458968378noreply@blogger.com